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		<title>By: people &#187; Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15763</link>
		<dc:creator>people &#187; Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the rest of this great post here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Join the PHP Evangelism Team &#124; The Web Source - Coding, Design Tutorials</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15683</link>
		<dc:creator>Join the PHP Evangelism Team &#124; The Web Source - Coding, Design Tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Evangelism Team - Mailing List Posted By: admin&#160; Published in PHP  24Oct   Patrick Reilly has posted about a new group that&#8217;s being formed in the PHP world - a PHP Evangelism Team designed to help [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Evangelism Team - Mailing List Posted By: admin&nbsp; Published in PHP  24Oct   Patrick Reilly has posted about a new group that&#8217;s being formed in the PHP world - a PHP Evangelism Team designed to help [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lifepeers &#187; Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15658</link>
		<dc:creator>lifepeers &#187; Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here for full [...]</description>
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		<title>By: developercast.com &#187; Patrick Reilly&#8217;s Blog: Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15627</link>
		<dc:creator>developercast.com &#187; Patrick Reilly&#8217;s Blog: Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Reilly has posted about a new group that&#8217;s being formed in the PHP world - a PHP Evangelism Team designed to help [...]</description>
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		<title>By: surripui</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15625</link>
		<dc:creator>surripui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah, color me confused... ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah, color me confused&#8230; <img src='http://preilly.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Paul M. Jones</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15624</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M. Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The goal of the PHP Evangelism Team is to bring together the right people, resources and experience from across the PHP Community to provide developers with the process guidance and best practices needed to create new opportunities for the web."

What does this actually mean? It kind of falls apart when I read it closely.

What kinds of "process guidance" are we talking about?

How does the "guidance" of "process" cause it to "create new opportunities"?

"Opportunities" to do or be what, and for whom?

Indeed, I wasn't aware that "the web" (proper) was capable of grasping "new opportunities." Developers and institutions maybe, but "the web"?

How does this tie into evangelizing PHP? To whom will the team evangelize?

I could go on, but the theme would be the same. These kinds of broad-ranging generalities sound nice, but have little substance.

Clearly I am a cranky old man who pays too much attention to things that don't matter to other people. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The goal of the PHP Evangelism Team is to bring together the right people, resources and experience from across the PHP Community to provide developers with the process guidance and best practices needed to create new opportunities for the web.&#8221;</p>
<p>What does this actually mean? It kind of falls apart when I read it closely.</p>
<p>What kinds of &#8220;process guidance&#8221; are we talking about?</p>
<p>How does the &#8220;guidance&#8221; of &#8220;process&#8221; cause it to &#8220;create new opportunities&#8221;?</p>
<p>&#8220;Opportunities&#8221; to do or be what, and for whom?</p>
<p>Indeed, I wasn&#8217;t aware that &#8220;the web&#8221; (proper) was capable of grasping &#8220;new opportunities.&#8221; Developers and institutions maybe, but &#8220;the web&#8221;?</p>
<p>How does this tie into evangelizing PHP? To whom will the team evangelize?</p>
<p>I could go on, but the theme would be the same. These kinds of broad-ranging generalities sound nice, but have little substance.</p>
<p>Clearly I am a cranky old man who pays too much attention to things that don&#8217;t matter to other people. <img src='http://preilly.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: nookli &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</title>
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		<dc:creator>nookli &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Join the PHP Evangelism Team - Mailing List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here for more  This entry was posted on Monday, October 22nd, 2007 at 10:12 am and is filed under php [...]</description>
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		<title>By: surripui</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15620</link>
		<dc:creator>surripui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, sorry Laura - that facebook group is open to members of the PHP Development Team. You need to join that group first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, sorry Laura - that facebook group is open to members of the PHP Development Team. You need to join that group first.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15619</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And as foretold in the divine prophecy, the masses shall rally unto our glorious banner.  Huzzah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And as foretold in the divine prophecy, the masses shall rally unto our glorious banner.  Huzzah!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Thomson</title>
		<link>http://preilly.org/2007/10/22/join-the-php-evangelism-team-mailing-list/#comment-15618</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, I take that back about the facebook group :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, I take that back about the facebook group <img src='http://preilly.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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